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this should actually be called the scourge campaign. being someone with an "ug" & advanced degree from u.c. berkeley and having a complete ambivalance toward religion of any kind, it would be difficult for anyone to label me a conservative by any stretch. yet i am repulsed by what i see from the no on 8 activists. i want to address those no on 8 citizens who populate disturbing sites such as these. STOP IT! STOP IT NOW!!! it is time to face the facts. the election is over and 8 lost...again. these frightening attacks against the mormon church are disgusting. i heard so much of this racism during the campaign & had hoped that it was just silly mindless fervor from passionate supporters. sadly, this was not the case and the attacks have gotten uglier. signs outside the la mormon temple like "u have 2 wives i want 1 husband," "joseph smith was a pedophile," etc. are fascist, racist, and have no place in our society. those who say they are not attacking the religion are on serious hallucinogens and need to look themselves in the mirror. this is not nazi germany, and what you are doing and saying should disturb every jew, christian, muslim, and secular american. ignorant, under-educated, violent idiots do not help any cause, let alone one whose supporters claim is one of justice and tolerance. STOP IT! STOP IT NOW!!!

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Hardly Courageous Campaigning
By FedUp.... Nov 13th 2008 at 12:57 pm PST (Updated Nov 13th 2008 at 12:57 pm PST)
The anti-Mormon prop 8 ad that CC recently brought to California airwaves was not only ignorantly malicious, but also blatant slander against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. As a concerned Californian voter, I am extremely displeased to know that on election day, I unknowingly found your site and used your voter guide to help me with my decisions regarding my votes. Having not needed any influence or lobbying to decide at a NO vote on my own, I thought your site to be non-bias place to find contemporary policital information. However it has since come to my attention that your organization was behind the dispicable anti-YES on 8 ad that wrongfully portrays Mormon missionaries and the church as an entire organization. Having served a mission for the church myself in Paraguay, South America, I can affirm to you and your organization that I never once engaged in any acts as this, nor were those ever my intentions. The church never instructed me or those I served with to ever think or perform anything even remotely close to what is shown in your ad. Having close gay friends, I stood in support of their marriage in June as a groomsman out of friendship and love. Your ad and obviously biased political views not only offend me as an INFORMED voter and Californian, but will serve as motivation to disuade any that I can to view and or subscribe to your site for "courageous" political aide. With due respect, there is absolutely nothing "courageous" or "progressive" about erroneously defaming one group or organization through malicious means to generate support or lobby for another. Futhermore, should the LDS church, or any organization seek to raise funds and submit them for lobbying efforts, then they are allowed that right under federal law. This action makes no one subject to ridicule or attacks as your ad does in both forms. To that end, I fully intend to withdraw any interest or support I had ever given to your site/campaign and plan on informing family, friends, co-workers, and bloggers of your tactics in attempting to bring along "a new era to California." My only hope is that they can see through your organizations' lies and deception as clearly as I have.
Re: Hardly Courageous Campaigning
By User from Walnut Creek, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 10:38 pm PST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:38 pm PST)
Having been a Mormon for 60 years and rasied in Provo Utah, I am finally standing up and asking for my name to be removed from the records of the Mormon Church. Over the years I have been a Primary President, on the Stake Relief Society Board, and married in the Temple in Oakland, CA. I can not stand by and listen to members being told how to vote. I did NOT satnd up in the 80's when I was told (very strongly) to vote against Women's Rights. I did NOT stand up when I was told (very strongly) Not to listen to Andrew LLoyd Weber. (He was a follower of the Devil, drawing us in with his music....of course, now Relief Society groups flock to see "Phantom of the Opera". It can't work both ways.)
I have 5 adult children and 9 grandchildren. I want to let them know that ALL people are equal in God's eyes. That includes Blacks, who could not hold the priesthood when I was young and now Gays, who for years were disowned by their familes and made to feel unworthy and sinful. I sstand up now and ask others, who were brought up LDS,to STOP and think, with the brain and heartthat God gave you, and take a good look at your CTR ring and Choose the Right!
  
Mormons, Courage & Reformed Catholics
By User from Sonoma, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 6:48 pm PST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:48 pm PST)
The OP and the previous commentator may or may not be experiencing cognitive dissonance, but they should be. Decades ago I left the Catholic church because I could no longer hew to the church's line on gays and abortion (to name just two issues of many) in good conscience. I'm confident I'm still going to heaven through good works, though I may never bend a knee in church again as long as I live. I don't know if this is a "courageous" stance, but it is a helluva lot more rational than someone continuing to call themselves a Mormon and supporting the church when they clearly don't follow the church line. If your leaders are wrong, you are also wrong if you don't repudiate them. YES I AM attacking organized religion and those that slavishly follow their "leaders". Wrong is wrong, and enshrining in our State Constitution second-class status for ANYONE - especially in the name of some religious motive - IS WRONG. Heck, sometimes I pray the Rapture is real. I know who will be consigned to the Lake Of Fire and it ain't going to be me.
  
What???
By User from Walnut Creek, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 10:46 pm PST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:46 pm PST)
How long have you been a Mormon???
I have been one for 60 years!
If you do not know the facts and you need to read up on church history. I have many relatives who have been sealed in the temple to several wives! I have been to the Temple, myself. If I were to die my husband can mary AGAIN and be sealed to another wife. My grandfather had 17 brothers and 10 sisters and had to move to Mexico to flee from the law. Those marriages are still valid on the church records.
So yes! Mormon still do have more than one wife....which is not a marriage between a MAN and a WOMAN. As a past Primary President, I would ask you to take a good look at your CTR ring and "Choose the RIght"!!!!!
Re: What???
By User from Newport Beach, CA Nov 16th 2008 at 12:36 pm PST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 12:36 pm PST)
i thought it stated clearly in the post that i am not mormon & not religious. And, i don't understand your multiple wives angle, sealing, etc. what i do know is blatant racism & these attacks should frighten EVERY jew, christian, muslim and secular californian. this IS NOT pre-nazi germany, so "all no on 8" supporters need to quit acting like gestapo. the people have spoken...again. homosexuals deserve the "benefit" of marriage as much as someone out-of-shape deserves a handicap permit. sorry, but by definition, you no more qualify for marriage than a native american qualifies for an african-american academic scholarship. either marriage is what it is or just open it to anyone. why does a homosexual deserve "marriage" more than bisexuals (mmf or ffm)who are in a loving, long term relationship. or, what about relatives who are in love? why are these people any less deserving than homosexuals? don't pretend others are less open-minded than you when you may be the close-minded one! and don't pretend it was just religious people who were for prop 8. as a gay friend who voted for 8 told me, "why the hell would i want to be married. i thought not marrying was one of the benefits of being gay."
  

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